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Getting emotional with.... Kevin Roberts - CEO Worldwide Saatchi & Saatchi

Kevin Roberts was born in Lancaster in the north of England and attended Lancaster Royal Grammar School. He started his business career in the late 1960s with the influential London fashion house of Mary Quant. After working in senior management and marketing positions with Procter & Gamble in Europe and the Middle East, he became CEO of Pepsi-Cola Middle East at age 32.

Roberts took up his position with Saatchi & Saatchi in 1997. Under Roberts' leadership, Saatchi & Saatchi has grown revenue year by year and achieved outstanding success at the Cannes International Advertising Festival. In 2003 Saatchi & Saatchi was named Best Global Network by both Ad Week and Ad Age publications.

Saatchi & Saatchi are now involved in the world of human emotions through their Lovemarks approach. Lovemarks are a new way of thinking about the things we love. Lovemarks are better than brands, because they are about Love and Respect: they speak to us as thinking and feeling human beings. Lovemarks embody Mystery, Sensuality and Intimacy.

Q & A

By Marco van Hout
TIP: If you find it difficult to read Kevin's handwritten answers, hold the mouse on the text. A "translation" will appear.

In the Lovemark approach, you frequently mention the term “emotion(s)”. What does it refer to in this context?

KR: The heart not the head. The senses not the brain. Emotion leads to action. Reason leads to conclusions

Where exactly do emotions “come in” in the Lovemark approach?

KR: Once respect has been built (quality, price, performance, distinction) then you add love - create loyalty beyond reason.

In the Love/Respect Axis, fads trends and infatuations are located in the “high love-low respect” quadrant. When a positively experienced product-emotion persuades us to purchase that gotta-have-watch, what has to happen next for the watch (brand) to win my respect and turn into a Lovemark?

KR: It must add mystery, sensuality and intimacy and connect with how you FEEL.

How much influence do you think a designer has in the creation of a Lovemark?

KR: Vital. Design is the physical embodiment of Lovemark theory. It is the stairway to the theatre of dreams. The first touch at the first Moment of Truth.

From the Lovemarks website: “Lovemarks: People love them because of what they are, not because of what they do. Their appeal is emotional. Companies may own brands. But Lovemarks are owned by the people who love them”
Do the people who love these brands (Lovemarks) really own them? Because that would mean that people own their own emotions, right? Do we in fact own them in your opinion?

KR: Yes.

In the Lovemarks newsletter of September it said: "To be successful, retailers will need to be "the theater of dreams", and need to engage customers emotionally." This “to engage customers emotionally" is something I read more often in pieces related to the Lovemarks.

Could you explain what you mean exactly by engaging customers emotionally and how that would be made possible?

KR: Consumers will no longer be directed, controlled or manipulated. They know they are special and are not part of "the mass". They demand (+deserve) to be entertained, engaged, stimulated and provoked.They're looking for relationships, not transactions.

When you would have to think of a product design that you think of as a true emotional design, which design would that be?

KR: 1) The i-pod Nano 2) The Mont Blanc "Le Grand" rollerball. 3) The Mini Cooper.

On your website, in the Q&A section, your answer to what makes a great ad is: "Simplicity, relevance and an immediate emotional connection to the consumer’s heart, through a stunning visual, humour, music or drama. A difference psychologists usually make between sentiments and emotions is that sentiments are dispositional, which means they are not limited in time (being afraid of dogs). They can even last a lifetime. Whereas emotions are acute and can only last seconds or even fractions of a second (being frightened by a dog in a certain moment).

Would you agree that to get to people’s hearts it could be even better to try and connect to sentiments which are dispositional rather than to emotions which are acute? And how do you think this would influence Lovemarks?

KR: I believe in and/and, not either/ or. Great connections are made at every level.

For some time, emotional design in product design has been focused on the exterior and aesthetics of a product. Now we see that experience is becoming a more important factor. In creating a Lovemark, how big a factor is experience?

KR: It's almost everything. Life is more and more about experience, not things. The more "experience" a "thing" delivers, the more potent the connection.

Is there a maximum to the amount of Lovemarks that can exist in a certain market/ field?

KR: No, because Lovemarks are intensely personal and people are different. The end of Globalisation is upon us.

Has there been a change throughout history in how people experience Lovemarks, especially with all the changes in mass media?

KR: Yes - We've moved from interruption to invitation. The consumer is boss.

Thanks Kevin!